Anybody else find the Thor, Supes, WWoman story retarded?

Just wondering. I certainly thought it was incredibly stupid.

I meant to ask in the above post if anybody else thought the Superman, Wonder Woman, Thor story was dumb. It just seemed a little forced to me. Sorry about the vague posting.

I thought Action 761 was wonderful. I also believe it might be a pivotal book in the Superman series. It touched on Lois's growing jealously over Wonder Woman and her own doubts about being good enough for clark because of the deal she made with Lex. It confirmed the fact that Diana loves Clark and in fact he loves her , maybe not as much or even the same way he does Lois, but the connection is still there. You missed the point, that these two people have known been fighting for their lives for a thousand years. They have known each other longer than any two people in the DCU. This alone had to have some effect on them. Ask any one who has been in combat, fighting for their lives with their friends and they will tell you nothing brings people closer together then depending on some one for your life except love. So what happens when two people who already have stong feelings for one another have been [as shown in the book] fihting back to bck for a thousand years. I also liked the hints in the story. For example in the beginning of the story clark is in bed and lois is standing over him with a blue blanket, at the end clark is in bed and it is wonder woman standing over him with a blue blanket. That last scene were they were alone for the last time, it seemed to me that Diana was more than willing to share that last night together, but only Clarks love for lois stopped them both, no matter how much they both wanted or needed to. The fact that it was superman clinging to diana for comfort and at the end she was the emotionally strong one that he had to hold on for comfort was very moving and interesting. Now Dc can ignor the whole thing like the kingdom fihting back to bck for a thousand years. I also liked the hints in the story. For example in the beginning of the story clark is in bed and lois is standing over him with a blue blanket, at the end clark is in bed and it is wonder woman standing over him with a blue blanket. That last scene were they were alone for the last time, it seemed to me that Diana was more than willing to share that last night together, but only Clarks love for lois stopped them both, no matter how much they both wanted or needed to. The fact that it was superman clinging to diana for comfort and at the end she was the emotionally strong one that he had to hold on for comfort was very moving and interesting. Now Dc can ignor the whole thing like the kingdom[ you think clark and Diana would at one time talked over what they learned about a possible son someday} or they could use the story as a plot devise for future story lines.

I agree, the final scene between Supes and Diana was very touching. I also thought that Garcia's art helped a great deal - i hope Kano will maintiain the high quality. From what i've read it looks like Lois and Clark could be heading for marital trouble, and despite how i like the 'love' between the two i always found it difficult to believe that Lois did not ever get jealous. She is human after all.

I'm sorry, but you guys are CRAZY! What, do you like, work for DC or something? (I'm saying this in a lighthearted, friendly way.)

First off, nobody in their right mind is going to go 1000 years and not slip up with a woman that he happens to be SLEEPING WITH next to campfires, smelling her hair and all that.

Next, what do you mean the last few scenes were 'touching'?! It was the most incredibly 2 dimensional story I've ever read. It was like Joe Kelly woke up one day and said, 'I know, I'll write the lamest story I can think of, and give myself only 20 seconds to do it.' Then he proceeds to write a story that spans a 1000 years, and to cram it into 20 pages or so.

The artwork: It was pretty good up to the point where they travel with Thor to Valhalla. Then you have pages full of scenes containing a plain brown building/castle thingy that the artist obviously didn't care to spend any time on adding detail.... such as BRICKS or anything else for that matter. There's no background art whatsoever, except for more brown color in the sky with a few obscure demons flying around. The ground in front of the castle is done the same. Just a big space filled with tan color. It's some of the worst I've ever seen! I've seen coloring books that artists have spent more time on. German Garcia got lazy in Thor's world. Take a look for yourself. He uses so many shortcuts to avoid drawing anything except for that brown background that it stands out bad.

So let's see, then Thor dies, along with everybody else save for WW and Clark, so they have to fight Thor's battle on their own. But then Clark and WW win the fight and, gasp! Thor and everybody else show up again to thank them for fighting a battle that had absolutely nothing at all to do with Superman and WW in the first place. What a pointless story. Tell me what any of it had to do with Earth, and Superman.

If you liked the little hints and stuff between WonderWoman and Supes, I can think of a trillion other ways to better present it then a pointless story that's just written to fill comic pages.

Hey! On a lighter note, I really loved the cover to Superman in Action #762.

I am in the vast minority of fans who actually LIKES the idea of Clark and Diana together, and I'm an ANCIENT fan! This story sets the stage for the rumored breakup of Lois and Clark... well, on second thought, Lana whispering 'I love you, Clark' as he flies away actually set the stage... this just lights the stage!

I'm very happy (finally) with the direction the writing is taking in the Superman titles... now, if DC could hogtie the better artists.....!

'...But not Superman because.... His moralistic ideals wouldn't let him do it. Superman isn't just superman because what he can do, but what he doesn't do.'

Okay, I'll give you that detail. It's one of the things I too find really great about the Superman's character. I like that Superman is almost flawlessly moral. He's just about the last Superhero that hasn't been tampered with in that area.

(Lord, I'm about so sick of Spawn it isn't funny. I don't buy it anymore since Todd doesn't do the artwork... which... I've seen his name on some of the penciling credits, but that doesn't count, since A)It doesn't look like his work, and he's only doing it so that he can claim he hasn't completely thrown it into somebody else's lap. I bet all the pencil work is done like stick figures and then Capullo or whoever fills in all the rest. Same with that Korn album cover, by the way. McFarlane rakes in all the credit for it, but if you find the credits, he only did some rough penciling, and Capullo took over. At any rate, The Al Simmons/ Spawn character is a bastard. And I don't really pick up Superhero Comics to marvel over gore and intolerable characters. '*Sniff* My life is soooo horrible. I can't see my wife. I live in an alley. I think I'll become lord over the bums in the alley and kill Mafia guys and demons the rest of my 2nd life.'

Aaaanyway, sorry. I get carried away. I'm a big detail person. Oh, yeah.... I like that Superman is moral. However, I still say the story came out of left field and should have never seen print. The interaction between Diana and Clark could've been done in a different story. Another thing they could've done instead to make the story a little better is stretched it out over 5 or 6 issues. I found it hard to swallow the 'thousand year' battle thing in just the 10 pages or so that it was presented in.

But as for the finer points, such as the deeper messages that were happening aside from the main 'thousand year Thor battle', I'll concede. I liked those things too.

I DON'T want to see Superman and Lois have marital problems. If they do, I'll be seriously fed up. DC should see the crap Marvel has pulled with Spider-Man and Mary Jane and catch a hint. Leave the marriage alone. I DON'T want to read about Lois picking up smoking, going to nightclubs, threatening to divorce Clark, ALmost having affairs....etc. If I so much as catch a hint of any of that stuff, I'm out. Again. I'm not against Clark and Diana getting together eventually, but stick to the Kingdom Come story line where Lois dies 20 years in the future.

Some regular poster here predicted lois would be dead in seven years and be back in two. So perhaps your both right.

story sets the stage for the

I believe it was in 'Previews'... and, if this week's books are any indication, there's definitely trouble brewing... or does EVERYONE'S wife go out at night dressed in only a wide belt telling her husband not to wait

Well from the looks of Superman #155 there is definately something going down between them two. And might i add that McGuiness makes Lois look very niche!

I liked this eek's book except for the rather sudden arrival of this subplot. I know newlyweds sometimes have problems, but this is not a good idea for a story, from where I sit.

Simon DelMonte